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## [UX Is Evolving. Are We Keeping Up? A conversation with Menno Cramer](https://forum.zurb.com/t/ux-is-evolving-are-we-keeping-up-a-conversation-with-menno-cramer/36)

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**Author:** [@Bryan](https://forum.zurb.com/u/Bryan)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [February 2, 2026, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.zurb.com/t/ux-is-evolving-are-we-keeping-up-a-conversation-with-menno-cramer/36 "2026-02-02T02:55:22Z")

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We just dropped 5 podcast clips from our conversation with Menno Cramer, whose simple but powerful User Experience map has been sparking some great thinking across our team. In our conversation, Menno talks about why…